sanju
01-13 03:57 PM
OMG... some imposter called Hrithik is trying to impose himself as paskal... god Save IV :D:D:D:D:D
It appears that you are cracking a joke, but I cannot stop from replying to your post. Why are you asking God to save IV? For the things we cannot do or for the things we dcon't understand, why do we always have to bring in 'God' in the picture? Can't we even crack a joke without brining in God?
I am just trying to prevent world war III on these forums. Thats why my request for not referring "God'. We will all be much more happier funnier and peaceful if we try not to bring in 'God' in the mix.
Next thing you will see, someone will post - "God, when will the VB dates move for my category".
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It appears that you are cracking a joke, but I cannot stop from replying to your post. Why are you asking God to save IV? For the things we cannot do or for the things we dcon't understand, why do we always have to bring in 'God' in the picture? Can't we even crack a joke without brining in God?
I am just trying to prevent world war III on these forums. Thats why my request for not referring "God'. We will all be much more happier funnier and peaceful if we try not to bring in 'God' in the mix.
Next thing you will see, someone will post - "God, when will the VB dates move for my category".
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eb3retro
03-17 04:39 PM
Guys - I have 2 sets of questions:
1. Case 1: Re-enter on AP with a valid H1-B visa till Oct 2010 (not stamped in Passport though). What status do I have (AOS or H1-B)? This is assuming that I work for the same GC sponsoring employer. I currently have 3 copies of AP (and 3 for my wife) - will I have to turn in all 3 of them at the POE? I have read that the Immigration Officers keep 2 of the 3 APs and return one back to you. The I-94 is stamped for 1 year - what do I do after a year? Do I have to renew my AP every year to maintain my status in the US?
2. Case II: Re-enter on AP (not working for sponsoring employer - using AC 21) - Is this safe? How does one explain AC21 to the Immigration Officer..how should one answer the question: 'Who is your current employer?'
thanks in advance!
charlotte-gc
refer to my post here.. http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=230811&postcount=1
1. Case 1: Re-enter on AP with a valid H1-B visa till Oct 2010 (not stamped in Passport though). What status do I have (AOS or H1-B)? This is assuming that I work for the same GC sponsoring employer. I currently have 3 copies of AP (and 3 for my wife) - will I have to turn in all 3 of them at the POE? I have read that the Immigration Officers keep 2 of the 3 APs and return one back to you. The I-94 is stamped for 1 year - what do I do after a year? Do I have to renew my AP every year to maintain my status in the US?
2. Case II: Re-enter on AP (not working for sponsoring employer - using AC 21) - Is this safe? How does one explain AC21 to the Immigration Officer..how should one answer the question: 'Who is your current employer?'
thanks in advance!
charlotte-gc
refer to my post here.. http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=230811&postcount=1
peyton sawyer
07-23 02:20 AM
hi chisinau,or anyone..
Hi chisinau..
It's destiny that I came across your posting.. like you, I am an RN waiting for the DS230 approval also since Oct.2006.. believe it or not ,I was also informed by the NVC to resubmit a new DS230 because the previous one I submitted last year was already outdated. Now, I sent them the updated DS230 last June 27,2007.
I really want to ask if in your opinion, or if you have some positive information regarding this…do we still have a chance of receiving an embassy interview and medical exam schedule before October 2007?
I would really appreciate a response.. thank you
Hi chisinau..
It's destiny that I came across your posting.. like you, I am an RN waiting for the DS230 approval also since Oct.2006.. believe it or not ,I was also informed by the NVC to resubmit a new DS230 because the previous one I submitted last year was already outdated. Now, I sent them the updated DS230 last June 27,2007.
I really want to ask if in your opinion, or if you have some positive information regarding this…do we still have a chance of receiving an embassy interview and medical exam schedule before October 2007?
I would really appreciate a response.. thank you
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NWISE
05-27 06:17 PM
Interesting... someone doesn't like my post. Just wondering if it's those Anties?
Didn't think my suggestion was that good that it merit your attention ;)
Just so you know... I don't give two hoots for those red dots but thought I'll let you know: we're slow to get together but eventually we'll roll all over you :p
Didn't think my suggestion was that good that it merit your attention ;)
Just so you know... I don't give two hoots for those red dots but thought I'll let you know: we're slow to get together but eventually we'll roll all over you :p
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vinodmp
02-06 02:05 PM
Sameer, I am true Indian and has been waiting on this loop for more than 10 years.
It was such a shock for me on friday when I received the email so anything I typed was in a panic. so don't worry about the spell check.
Myself or attorney has not received the original letter so until then I do not have more info and I came to this forum to see if anyone had similar experience and any feedback.
I normally use murthy forum and friday when I was talking to a friend he suggested some folks here had already gone through similar situation.
-vinod
It was such a shock for me on friday when I received the email so anything I typed was in a panic. so don't worry about the spell check.
Myself or attorney has not received the original letter so until then I do not have more info and I came to this forum to see if anyone had similar experience and any feedback.
I normally use murthy forum and friday when I was talking to a friend he suggested some folks here had already gone through similar situation.
-vinod
eb_retrogession
02-28 10:27 AM
Dear members,
Thank you for all your support thus far.
IV currently has around 950 registered members. If every member were to contribute $100 each, we should have close to 100K today. We think that is a very realistic picture. In fact we were banking on that kind of support when we started this effort. We are not even close to that number.
Guys, the core team of IV have really slogged to reach a point where our voices are being heard. By not contributing, please don't do a dis-service to yourselves and all others involved.
This is an appeal to all the members that haven't contributed yet, PLEASE CONTRIBUTE AT LEAST $100. Most of EB workers have decent jobs and enjoy a decent lifestyle. $100 is not too much to ask, for what is at stake right now. Given the number of people affected, one would think acheiving the contribution target is a piece of cake. PLEASE STEP UP NOW!!
We are relying on this support to move forward. There may not be any other chance for your issues to be heard at the level we are trying.
If you have any questions regarding operational issues or need more convincing, please send a note to info@immigrationvoice.org
For the effort we are putting, atleast give us a surviving chance to fight the battle!!
Thank you for all your support thus far.
IV currently has around 950 registered members. If every member were to contribute $100 each, we should have close to 100K today. We think that is a very realistic picture. In fact we were banking on that kind of support when we started this effort. We are not even close to that number.
Guys, the core team of IV have really slogged to reach a point where our voices are being heard. By not contributing, please don't do a dis-service to yourselves and all others involved.
This is an appeal to all the members that haven't contributed yet, PLEASE CONTRIBUTE AT LEAST $100. Most of EB workers have decent jobs and enjoy a decent lifestyle. $100 is not too much to ask, for what is at stake right now. Given the number of people affected, one would think acheiving the contribution target is a piece of cake. PLEASE STEP UP NOW!!
We are relying on this support to move forward. There may not be any other chance for your issues to be heard at the level we are trying.
If you have any questions regarding operational issues or need more convincing, please send a note to info@immigrationvoice.org
For the effort we are putting, atleast give us a surviving chance to fight the battle!!
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senthil1
01-14 01:44 PM
Looks like it is for illegal immigrants as it asks for continous stay. Most legals would not have stayed continously as they might went out of country for vacation
I wonder how it would work for existing AOS applicants. The existing applicants have already applied under the INA c9 subsections. The text of the current bill states that the applicant needs to apply under this bill's section to adjust status, similar to 245i. Now if this means reapplying under this section, that would mean another flood of applicants. Obviously with such a deluge, you wouldnt need a quota, the CIS system itself will take years to sort out the applicants.
I wonder how it would work for existing AOS applicants. The existing applicants have already applied under the INA c9 subsections. The text of the current bill states that the applicant needs to apply under this bill's section to adjust status, similar to 245i. Now if this means reapplying under this section, that would mean another flood of applicants. Obviously with such a deluge, you wouldnt need a quota, the CIS system itself will take years to sort out the applicants.
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jessie1981
06-18 02:57 PM
Simple answer is NO. The local offices do not have this authority. Just have to wait for the USCIS wheels to move along at their own pace before you can travel.
This is not correct. If one can prove that his/her family member is dying or just died, he/she can get an AP from local office immediately.
This is not correct. If one can prove that his/her family member is dying or just died, he/she can get an AP from local office immediately.
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10-10 09:11 PM
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sertha1
06-25 06:33 PM
Could you please tell what is your spouse's H1B validity date? Mine is 09/30/2007. Will they deny my wife re-entry into US since there are only 2-3 months left?
It will be like attending for a H4 visa and prepare documents required for H4.
It will be like attending for a H4 visa and prepare documents required for H4.
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chanduv23
02-23 01:08 PM
My lawyer advised against filing AC21 proactively. His opinion is that it may trigger a big RFE requiring financial details of the new employer. How true is this? I have a feeling my previous employer might withdraw my approved I-140 on the advice of their corporate lawyers (Fragomen, who I believe recommend I-140 withdrawal as past of their standard procedure when an employee leaves). I would like to preempt that and file AC21 documentation.
Yes, most Attorneys advise against proactive filing primarily because AC21 has no formal process associated like form, fee, reciepting or standard. It is based on guidance, most times the AC21 docs may or may not reach your file.
Some Attorneys advise the HR to proactively file for AC21. There is one company (huge) where when you are being offered a job on EAD after AC21 - the HR dept makes a big fuss - asks for all documents like copy if Labor, 140, 485 reciept any any other documents and then makes you sign G 28 and then file for a G28 change in Attorney and associate AC21 docs with those. I guess, the Attorneys charge money so it is a business. If RFE or denial - then more money.
My recomendation is to hire a ethical and realistic lawyer and not a greedy one
Yes, most Attorneys advise against proactive filing primarily because AC21 has no formal process associated like form, fee, reciepting or standard. It is based on guidance, most times the AC21 docs may or may not reach your file.
Some Attorneys advise the HR to proactively file for AC21. There is one company (huge) where when you are being offered a job on EAD after AC21 - the HR dept makes a big fuss - asks for all documents like copy if Labor, 140, 485 reciept any any other documents and then makes you sign G 28 and then file for a G28 change in Attorney and associate AC21 docs with those. I guess, the Attorneys charge money so it is a business. If RFE or denial - then more money.
My recomendation is to hire a ethical and realistic lawyer and not a greedy one
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black_logs
05-11 03:17 PM
bkarnik,
You mentioned this in your message 'if the SKIL bill provisions are also included as amendments' , where did you get this ? are you making a guess ? If it gets included then nothing like it. DOL backlog gets cleared in 6 months. Return of Visa revalidation. Begin of I-140 premium processing etc. etc. Skill bill is too good.
Friends...please...the CIR is still better than the present situation we are in. It increases the H1B numbers, it increases the amount of GCs availbale per year, it excludes dependents from the quota, it excludes STEM advanced degrees (currently employed as well as future students) from the quota, it does require the illegals to wait at least 6 years before they can file papers for their GCs and then thay get to be at the back of the line, additionally, if the SKIL bill provisions are also included as amendments, it will also provide a premium processing facility for I485. The SKIL bill also mandates the DOL to clear all backlog within 6 months. The thinking is that by the time the undocumented aliens (somehow, I do not like the word illegal) enter the pipeline, the current backlog will be cleared and all dates will be current.
Given, the uncertainity in the process right now, I still feel that CIR is the way to go. Also, if it were not for the issue of the undocumented aliens, there would have been no incentive or push to do anything about the system and we would be stuck with this system. As far as the USCIS efficiency is concerned, I would not underestimate them either, the USCIS is known to be very efficient when it needs to (prime example the spectacularly efficient and successful H1 B premium processing system) so keep the faith and help yourselves achieve your dreams :)
You mentioned this in your message 'if the SKIL bill provisions are also included as amendments' , where did you get this ? are you making a guess ? If it gets included then nothing like it. DOL backlog gets cleared in 6 months. Return of Visa revalidation. Begin of I-140 premium processing etc. etc. Skill bill is too good.
Friends...please...the CIR is still better than the present situation we are in. It increases the H1B numbers, it increases the amount of GCs availbale per year, it excludes dependents from the quota, it excludes STEM advanced degrees (currently employed as well as future students) from the quota, it does require the illegals to wait at least 6 years before they can file papers for their GCs and then thay get to be at the back of the line, additionally, if the SKIL bill provisions are also included as amendments, it will also provide a premium processing facility for I485. The SKIL bill also mandates the DOL to clear all backlog within 6 months. The thinking is that by the time the undocumented aliens (somehow, I do not like the word illegal) enter the pipeline, the current backlog will be cleared and all dates will be current.
Given, the uncertainity in the process right now, I still feel that CIR is the way to go. Also, if it were not for the issue of the undocumented aliens, there would have been no incentive or push to do anything about the system and we would be stuck with this system. As far as the USCIS efficiency is concerned, I would not underestimate them either, the USCIS is known to be very efficient when it needs to (prime example the spectacularly efficient and successful H1 B premium processing system) so keep the faith and help yourselves achieve your dreams :)
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amoljak
05-14 07:33 AM
Recently, I stopped taking all these racial comments in a serious way, 2 days back my co worker made comments on how my "curry smells" when eat at my desk. My wife wakes up early in the morning and cooks the food with so much love and affection and I eat that, whereas he eats burgers and fries from cafeteria - look at who is commenting??????
I can understand the love your wife has for you. But I think you should enjoy that lovely lunch at a cafeteria. Smells can be very offensive. I love Indian food, but if I had to smell the Indian food in my cube everyday I would be pissed too. There is nothing racist here. I would be pissed if your coworker eats a burger with raw onions and then talks to me with that smell.
This is one of the first things new Indian students are told: Smell (or lack of it) is very important in America. Don't reuse socks, Use deodorant and enjoy the curry at home.
I can understand the love your wife has for you. But I think you should enjoy that lovely lunch at a cafeteria. Smells can be very offensive. I love Indian food, but if I had to smell the Indian food in my cube everyday I would be pissed too. There is nothing racist here. I would be pissed if your coworker eats a burger with raw onions and then talks to me with that smell.
This is one of the first things new Indian students are told: Smell (or lack of it) is very important in America. Don't reuse socks, Use deodorant and enjoy the curry at home.
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insbaby
10-01 07:30 PM
can she revert back to US citizenship and hold US passport by renouncing Indian passport
As of right now, YES. It is possible if you are in US. You submit the US birth certificate and that is the proof (Amendment 14) of your citizenship. If you are outside US, the process is slightly difficult that you have to convince the consulate/embassy.
Same is not true on the other side. Once you get US Passport, you have to do some "dramatic" actions to get your Indian passport back even if you are ready to renounce US Passport, because we follow rules (!!!) strictly.
As of right now, YES. It is possible if you are in US. You submit the US birth certificate and that is the proof (Amendment 14) of your citizenship. If you are outside US, the process is slightly difficult that you have to convince the consulate/embassy.
Same is not true on the other side. Once you get US Passport, you have to do some "dramatic" actions to get your Indian passport back even if you are ready to renounce US Passport, because we follow rules (!!!) strictly.
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meridiani.planum
02-15 11:49 AM
Some American citizens/anti-immigrant will tell you you are taking their jobs with your H1.
For them, this is their country. All jobs should go to them rather than a foreigner like you.
What is your response for that ?
they are not capable of doing those jobs. ANyone who has gone through a labor certification has documented, government verifiable/auditable proof of this.
For them, this is their country. All jobs should go to them rather than a foreigner like you.
What is your response for that ?
they are not capable of doing those jobs. ANyone who has gone through a labor certification has documented, government verifiable/auditable proof of this.
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gc28262
02-22 08:12 PM
Hi All,
I filed my I485 in 08/05 and my labor date is 07/05 in perm. My I140 got approved in 2007.
I was in bench for around 6 months in 2008 starting from Jan 1st to 06/20th. I took full time position in last week of 06/08 and continuing in the same job. I got RFE on my I485 and asked for employment verification in 12/09. My attorney replied with presnt employment letter and applied for AC21 also at the same time. Now i got another RFE asking for last 5 years employment letter, w-2 forms and tax returns.
Can some one please let me know how i can handle the period that i was in bench in 2008.
Thanks,
Chandra.
If you entered US on a valid Visa through a POE after June 2008, you are covered. You need to prove your legal status only since your last entry to US (Entering using AP does not count). If your employer didn't pay on bench, that is your employer's problem.
Some links:
http://www.lawbench.com/immigration-forum/453/245-k-and-unauthorized-employment
http://www.cyrusmehta.com/Print_Prev.aspx?SubIdx=1290
I filed my I485 in 08/05 and my labor date is 07/05 in perm. My I140 got approved in 2007.
I was in bench for around 6 months in 2008 starting from Jan 1st to 06/20th. I took full time position in last week of 06/08 and continuing in the same job. I got RFE on my I485 and asked for employment verification in 12/09. My attorney replied with presnt employment letter and applied for AC21 also at the same time. Now i got another RFE asking for last 5 years employment letter, w-2 forms and tax returns.
Can some one please let me know how i can handle the period that i was in bench in 2008.
Thanks,
Chandra.
If you entered US on a valid Visa through a POE after June 2008, you are covered. You need to prove your legal status only since your last entry to US (Entering using AP does not count). If your employer didn't pay on bench, that is your employer's problem.
Some links:
http://www.lawbench.com/immigration-forum/453/245-k-and-unauthorized-employment
http://www.cyrusmehta.com/Print_Prev.aspx?SubIdx=1290
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Macaca
08-12 11:23 AM
Pending cases = EB + Family + Refugee + Asylum + ... = Backlogged cases + Unripe cases = 1,275,795 (page 11) + 1,316,740 (Figure 1, page 14) = 2,592,535 (as of March 2007)
What is an unripe case?
even if the application or petition were approved today, a benefit could not be conferred for months or years to come. (page 11)
cases that do not have an available visa or an FBI name check, and cases that are in suspense for other reasons deemed beyond USCIS’ control (page 12)
There will be severe consequences from rapid fluctuations in priority dates.
If the priority date became current today, due to delayed USCIS processing and thus underutilization of visa numbers, some have predicted that within a few months as many as 500,000 to 750,000 individuals now residing in the United States under a temporary worker visa could apply for a green card.
Additionally, DOL’s recent backlog elimination efforts, scheduled to be completed by September 30, 2007, are predicted to add 70,000 or more approved labor certifications yielding as many as 170,000 additional green card applications.
As USCIS begins to complete these applications and request visa numbers from DOS, the 140,000 statutorily authorized visa numbers will be used. DOS then will be required to retrogress priority dates.
Consequently, most applicants in this scenario will find themselves trapped whereas they anticipated timely receipt of a green card, their wait exceeds seven or more years.
In addition, all future employment-based green card applicants effectively would be barred from applying for many years.
(From page 35 of Ombudsman's Report (http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/CISOMB_Annual_Report_2007.pdf))
What is an unripe case?
even if the application or petition were approved today, a benefit could not be conferred for months or years to come. (page 11)
cases that do not have an available visa or an FBI name check, and cases that are in suspense for other reasons deemed beyond USCIS’ control (page 12)
There will be severe consequences from rapid fluctuations in priority dates.
If the priority date became current today, due to delayed USCIS processing and thus underutilization of visa numbers, some have predicted that within a few months as many as 500,000 to 750,000 individuals now residing in the United States under a temporary worker visa could apply for a green card.
Additionally, DOL’s recent backlog elimination efforts, scheduled to be completed by September 30, 2007, are predicted to add 70,000 or more approved labor certifications yielding as many as 170,000 additional green card applications.
As USCIS begins to complete these applications and request visa numbers from DOS, the 140,000 statutorily authorized visa numbers will be used. DOS then will be required to retrogress priority dates.
Consequently, most applicants in this scenario will find themselves trapped whereas they anticipated timely receipt of a green card, their wait exceeds seven or more years.
In addition, all future employment-based green card applicants effectively would be barred from applying for many years.
(From page 35 of Ombudsman's Report (http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/CISOMB_Annual_Report_2007.pdf))
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neoneo
08-11 01:31 AM
This seems to be the one. I can't think of any reason any law firm would update it otherwise.
Call 'em up and confirm this info.
Pederson Immigration Law Group, P.C. - Priority Dates Progress - September Visa Bulletin Announced! (http://www.usvisainfo.com/content/view/166/1/)
Call 'em up and confirm this info.
Pederson Immigration Law Group, P.C. - Priority Dates Progress - September Visa Bulletin Announced! (http://www.usvisainfo.com/content/view/166/1/)
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unitednations
04-20 11:47 AM
2 year back my I-140 got rejected due to same reason 3+2 degree. I have 3 years Bsc in Computer science and 2 years Master of Computer Mgmt. They raise the question on 3 year Bachealor dagree. My lawyer send the reply along with degree evaluation and we try to say my 3+2 equal to 4+2 of USA and USCIS didn't buy this argument. after that lawyer told me that no hope in MTR or appeal. So we file again in Eb3.
Now i see based on your reply if have taken this approach in appeal then i might have got approval in appeal.
uscis works in funny ways (as we all know). As I stated in earlier post one case in nebraska i know got rejected and they stated that the appeals decision wasn't precedent. The texas cases received rfe's but got approved based on the decision.
Just yesterday, I received 140 denial from texas where they didn't even discuss the decision and just picked on that bachelors was three year degree.
Now i see based on your reply if have taken this approach in appeal then i might have got approval in appeal.
uscis works in funny ways (as we all know). As I stated in earlier post one case in nebraska i know got rejected and they stated that the appeals decision wasn't precedent. The texas cases received rfe's but got approved based on the decision.
Just yesterday, I received 140 denial from texas where they didn't even discuss the decision and just picked on that bachelors was three year degree.
apnair2002
05-11 03:18 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/11/washington/11cnd-immig.html
Senate Leaders Expect Immigration Bill Next Week
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By DAVID STOUT
Published: May 11, 2006
WASHINGTON, May 11 � Senate leaders said today that they had broken a political stalemate and would bring to the floor next week an immigration bill that could put millions of illegals on the road to eventual American citizenship.
An agreement reached today by Senators Bill Frist of Tennessee and Harry Reid of Nevada, the Republican majority and Democratic minority leaders, ends an impasse that has stalled action in the Senate for weeks while immigrants and their advocates have been holding huge demonstrations across the country.
The deal does not mean that a bill will emerge from Congress soon. But it is significant that the Senate leaders agree to move forward, because the chamber operates under peculiar rules and traditions that can bury legislation indefinitely. Mr. Frist and Mr. Reid said they hope to schedule a vote before Memorial Day.
Even if the Senate passes an immigration bill, it would have to be reconciled with a bill enacted in December by the House. That bill generally emphasizes border security rather than attainment of citizenship, so negotiations between Senate and House would probably be long and heated.
"What the Democratic leader and I have laid out is a way to get on to this bill, and as you can tell, both of us are working in very good faith on the various issues that have been raised on the floor," Mr. Frist said.
"I welcome the return of the immigration bill to the Senate floor," Mr. Reid said. "America's immigration system is broken, and our national security depends on Republicans and Democrats finding common ground to fix it. The assurances I have received from Senator Frist make me hopeful we can finally move forward on real comprehensive reform."
The leaders' comments indicated that they had resolved the issue that had kept them apart: how many amendments to consider, and how much time to devote to them.
"I didn't get everything that I wanted," said Mr. Reid, who blocked votes on amendments weeks ago, saying they were intended to gut the legislation. "I think the majority leader didn't get everything he wanted."
Mr. Frist said there would be "a considerable number of amendments debated and voted on each day," and that they would be handled "in an efficient way."
Until partisan bickering sidetracked legislation in the Senate in early April, the chamber was working on a package that offered opportunities for eventual citizenship, a guest worker program for some immigrants and measures to enhance border security. The tougher House ill focuses on border security and would crack down on illegal immigrants and those who employ them.
Mr. Frist said 14 Republicans and 12 Democrats will negotiate with House members once the Senate passes an immigration bill. Seven of the Republicans and five of the Democrats will come from the Judiciary Committee, with the remaining negotiators to be picked by Mr. Frist and Mr. Reid.
President Bush has said he favors legislation that would enable immigrants to become citizens, but only after they meet strict standards. He has said repeatedly that he does not favor "amnesty," a word that is anathema to many conservatives. "We congratulate the Senate on reaching agreement, and we look forward to passage of a bill prior to Memorial Day," Dana Perino, deputy White House press secretary, told The Associated Press.
Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, called the agreement announced today "a major step forward in our fight for tough but fair immigration reform."
"Business and labor, Democrats and Republicans, religious leaders and the American people strongly support our plan to strengthen our borders, provide a path to earned citizenship for those undocumented workers who are here and put in place a realistic guest worker program for the future," Mr. Kennedy said.
But quick passage is by no means assured, given the complexity of the immigration debate, the emotion it stirs and the approaching elections. Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, leader of the House Republican majority, said in late April that he opposed the emerging Senate legislation and its emphasis on citizenship attainment. "I don't think that would be supported by the American people," he said.
But the accord announced by Mr. Frist and Mr. Reid apparently means that immigration legislation will not sink out of sight in "the procedural quagmire that the Senate is," as Mr. Reid put it recently.
Senate Leaders Expect Immigration Bill Next Week
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By DAVID STOUT
Published: May 11, 2006
WASHINGTON, May 11 � Senate leaders said today that they had broken a political stalemate and would bring to the floor next week an immigration bill that could put millions of illegals on the road to eventual American citizenship.
An agreement reached today by Senators Bill Frist of Tennessee and Harry Reid of Nevada, the Republican majority and Democratic minority leaders, ends an impasse that has stalled action in the Senate for weeks while immigrants and their advocates have been holding huge demonstrations across the country.
The deal does not mean that a bill will emerge from Congress soon. But it is significant that the Senate leaders agree to move forward, because the chamber operates under peculiar rules and traditions that can bury legislation indefinitely. Mr. Frist and Mr. Reid said they hope to schedule a vote before Memorial Day.
Even if the Senate passes an immigration bill, it would have to be reconciled with a bill enacted in December by the House. That bill generally emphasizes border security rather than attainment of citizenship, so negotiations between Senate and House would probably be long and heated.
"What the Democratic leader and I have laid out is a way to get on to this bill, and as you can tell, both of us are working in very good faith on the various issues that have been raised on the floor," Mr. Frist said.
"I welcome the return of the immigration bill to the Senate floor," Mr. Reid said. "America's immigration system is broken, and our national security depends on Republicans and Democrats finding common ground to fix it. The assurances I have received from Senator Frist make me hopeful we can finally move forward on real comprehensive reform."
The leaders' comments indicated that they had resolved the issue that had kept them apart: how many amendments to consider, and how much time to devote to them.
"I didn't get everything that I wanted," said Mr. Reid, who blocked votes on amendments weeks ago, saying they were intended to gut the legislation. "I think the majority leader didn't get everything he wanted."
Mr. Frist said there would be "a considerable number of amendments debated and voted on each day," and that they would be handled "in an efficient way."
Until partisan bickering sidetracked legislation in the Senate in early April, the chamber was working on a package that offered opportunities for eventual citizenship, a guest worker program for some immigrants and measures to enhance border security. The tougher House ill focuses on border security and would crack down on illegal immigrants and those who employ them.
Mr. Frist said 14 Republicans and 12 Democrats will negotiate with House members once the Senate passes an immigration bill. Seven of the Republicans and five of the Democrats will come from the Judiciary Committee, with the remaining negotiators to be picked by Mr. Frist and Mr. Reid.
President Bush has said he favors legislation that would enable immigrants to become citizens, but only after they meet strict standards. He has said repeatedly that he does not favor "amnesty," a word that is anathema to many conservatives. "We congratulate the Senate on reaching agreement, and we look forward to passage of a bill prior to Memorial Day," Dana Perino, deputy White House press secretary, told The Associated Press.
Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, called the agreement announced today "a major step forward in our fight for tough but fair immigration reform."
"Business and labor, Democrats and Republicans, religious leaders and the American people strongly support our plan to strengthen our borders, provide a path to earned citizenship for those undocumented workers who are here and put in place a realistic guest worker program for the future," Mr. Kennedy said.
But quick passage is by no means assured, given the complexity of the immigration debate, the emotion it stirs and the approaching elections. Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, leader of the House Republican majority, said in late April that he opposed the emerging Senate legislation and its emphasis on citizenship attainment. "I don't think that would be supported by the American people," he said.
But the accord announced by Mr. Frist and Mr. Reid apparently means that immigration legislation will not sink out of sight in "the procedural quagmire that the Senate is," as Mr. Reid put it recently.
mannubhai
05-27 04:57 PM
We have seen that for every bill which gets a chance to be presented, there is a heated debate and some compromises arrived at if the bill gets a chance to move further. I am concerned that if this bill goes the same route, the compromise would be to drop the employment part of the same.
I agree with Pappu that we need to meet lawmakers and would like to add that our agenda should be to ensure that the employment based Visa Recapture remains in the agenda.
I agree with Pappu that we need to meet lawmakers and would like to add that our agenda should be to ensure that the employment based Visa Recapture remains in the agenda.