
StarSun
05-27 04:43 PM
Few members have spoken to me about participating in the advocacy days, however, you may have not signed the registration form. Please do so. This will allow us to tie you in with your representative when we confirm our appointments. The form is available on the first post in this thread.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1437978-iv-announcement-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-7th-and-8th-june.html
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1437978-iv-announcement-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-7th-and-8th-june.html
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h1techSlave
06-12 02:34 PM
As per the state dept folks, pretty much all categories are using all their allocated numbers. So where is the spill over going to come from?
country quota will not impact I and C once the dates are current for ROW due to the spillover. If the number of applications pending is, say 100K and 95 K out of that are I and C. And assume 10K applications from ROW are add to the queue, what I am saying is all 110K will be cleared by end of the fiscal year.
country quota will not impact I and C once the dates are current for ROW due to the spillover. If the number of applications pending is, say 100K and 95 K out of that are I and C. And assume 10K applications from ROW are add to the queue, what I am saying is all 110K will be cleared by end of the fiscal year.
sonia_sd
05-08 02:37 PM
Try Tri Valley
Try to respect others and feel sorry about their situation.
Try to respect others and feel sorry about their situation.
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h1techSlave
01-23 12:24 PM
Allowing people to file for 485, but not giving any GCs may be the plan.
Such a move do not bring much complaints from anti-immi groups. But this move will reduce the noise from people who have not yet filed for 485s. May be after getting EAD all those people will invest more in America.
This is maximum bang for the immigration buck from the USCIS/DOS point of view.
Ron says it will be current for a "brief" period. (similar to july 2007 fiasco ?)
It will be a good opportunity for people waiting to file 485. For people already in the queue, it may not make that much difference.
Such a move do not bring much complaints from anti-immi groups. But this move will reduce the noise from people who have not yet filed for 485s. May be after getting EAD all those people will invest more in America.
This is maximum bang for the immigration buck from the USCIS/DOS point of view.
Ron says it will be current for a "brief" period. (similar to july 2007 fiasco ?)
It will be a good opportunity for people waiting to file 485. For people already in the queue, it may not make that much difference.
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07-16 10:35 AM
Good luck finding one that covers you till the end AND is low on premium! The cheapest premiums are that of term insurance, and it is intended for such situations where you have taken measures to invest in other places such as real estate, equities, bonds, cash etc, AND you are not counting on earning any return on the premiums you have paid.
This insurance is plain and simple. You pay low for covering you for a certain period of time - 10, 20, 30 years.
Btw, if one is 35 years old and buys a 30 year term insurance, you are covered until the age of 65. What is your point?
It shows your knowledge about life insurance, go check it out on web for senior citizens quote and why life expectancy is beyond 65 and how to pass wealth to heir
This insurance is plain and simple. You pay low for covering you for a certain period of time - 10, 20, 30 years.
Btw, if one is 35 years old and buys a 30 year term insurance, you are covered until the age of 65. What is your point?
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sanju
07-14 06:20 PM
We should this opportunity to get the USINPAC to join our fight for timely immigration benefits. Now that IV is an established voice for the immigrant community, hopefull USINPAC will be ready accept IV and join the us.
GIDOC, Again, don't do this mistake. Talk to people who know this org before suggesting anything like this. usinpac guys had all the time in the world to work on this issue. But all that are bust doing is - doing photo-ops with lawmakers. HELLOOOOO!!!! Paid employees out there – are you listening???? :mad:
If you want IV to really do something, please don't even think of..... it will be just a huge mistake....:mad:
IV core,
Please do not even think of even trying this idea. These guys are going to corrupt this org as well. PLEASE PLEASE talk to other people to find about the reality of these con-artist.
GIDOC, Again, don't do this mistake. Talk to people who know this org before suggesting anything like this. usinpac guys had all the time in the world to work on this issue. But all that are bust doing is - doing photo-ops with lawmakers. HELLOOOOO!!!! Paid employees out there – are you listening???? :mad:
If you want IV to really do something, please don't even think of..... it will be just a huge mistake....:mad:
IV core,
Please do not even think of even trying this idea. These guys are going to corrupt this org as well. PLEASE PLEASE talk to other people to find about the reality of these con-artist.
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Humhongekamyab
01-15 02:35 PM
Here is the news from the Little Rock newpaper. Apparently the criminal shot dead another guy right after this incident http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=175391
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sands
08-13 08:56 PM
I appllied on May 12 and did FP on May 31, besides one LUD on July 1st, nothing has happened as of yet. I opened a service request but I ma not expecting anything to happen. Mine expires in Oct., so I still have some more time.
What's the way to contact the senator? I am from MA.
What's the way to contact the senator? I am from MA.
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unseenguy
07-04 11:25 PM
Incorrect.
You have to register the birth with the consulate (to get an Indian birth certificate) within a year using this form (see part II) (http://www.cgisf.org/visa/misc.pdf), following which you should be able to get an Indian passport. The USA will not issue a visa on this passport since it considers the child to be a US citizen. However, US policy in this regard does not matter if the child never travels to the US.
WTF? US will decide which country's citizen is our biological child?
You have to register the birth with the consulate (to get an Indian birth certificate) within a year using this form (see part II) (http://www.cgisf.org/visa/misc.pdf), following which you should be able to get an Indian passport. The USA will not issue a visa on this passport since it considers the child to be a US citizen. However, US policy in this regard does not matter if the child never travels to the US.
WTF? US will decide which country's citizen is our biological child?
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gc_chahiye
07-02 02:11 AM
You can find the link on the US Consulate website for Mumbai, under appointment information.
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/interview_appt_schedule.html
here's the one for July [PDF]
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/uploads/images/9uRZDUAnEBKVs3LMDSI0ug/apptjuly07.pdf
yes tons of EB3s and just 2 EB2s. I guess this, and the information on trackers would make us think USCIS has cleaned up tons of EB3s from 2001-2003. I wish hey had cleaned up EB3-ROW too, so numbers from there can roll over into India...
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/interview_appt_schedule.html
here's the one for July [PDF]
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/uploads/images/9uRZDUAnEBKVs3LMDSI0ug/apptjuly07.pdf
yes tons of EB3s and just 2 EB2s. I guess this, and the information on trackers would make us think USCIS has cleaned up tons of EB3s from 2001-2003. I wish hey had cleaned up EB3-ROW too, so numbers from there can roll over into India...
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h1techSlave
03-18 10:19 PM
Thanks much for the encouraging words. You have made my day. :D :):
10000 more homes is nothing. This is not INDIA. The economy is so huge that 10000 homes is a drop in the ocean. And is the Govt. going to believe that all 10000 immigrants are going to buy homes? 75% of them won't qualify for new mortgage rules.
Plus, what is stopping you from buying a home right now?
10000 more homes is nothing. This is not INDIA. The economy is so huge that 10000 homes is a drop in the ocean. And is the Govt. going to believe that all 10000 immigrants are going to buy homes? 75% of them won't qualify for new mortgage rules.
Plus, what is stopping you from buying a home right now?
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vram
09-22 07:19 PM
Hello all,
Here is my status
I am currently using H1(3 year extension since I140 was filed) and wife is using EAD. And I also have EAD and approved I140. I have filed for my I-485 (2005 PD) with my current company in Midwest in July 2007.
I have an offer from a company in California. Is it OK to accept the offer.
1. Does it matter if I change the geographical region
2. Also my field of work does not change. Only thing that might change is my increased roles and responsibilities and my designation for example from Senior Staff Engineer(Company X) to Principal Staff Engineer (company Y)
I would like to know if Would be in trouble or if my GC would be in trouble having waited from 1997(F1) until now.
-thanks
Here is my status
I am currently using H1(3 year extension since I140 was filed) and wife is using EAD. And I also have EAD and approved I140. I have filed for my I-485 (2005 PD) with my current company in Midwest in July 2007.
I have an offer from a company in California. Is it OK to accept the offer.
1. Does it matter if I change the geographical region
2. Also my field of work does not change. Only thing that might change is my increased roles and responsibilities and my designation for example from Senior Staff Engineer(Company X) to Principal Staff Engineer (company Y)
I would like to know if Would be in trouble or if my GC would be in trouble having waited from 1997(F1) until now.
-thanks
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05-31 08:27 AM
(1) To carry out programs that provide education and training to establish nursing career ladders to educate incumbent healthcare workers to become nurses (including Certified Nurse Assistants, Licensed Practical Nurses, Licensed Vocational Nurses, and Registered Nurses). Such programs shall include one or more of the following:
(A) Preparing incumbent workers to return to the classroom through English as a second language education, GED education, precollege counseling, college preparation classes, and support with entry level college classes that are a prerequisite to nursing.
(B) Providing tuition assistance with preference for dedicated cohort classes in community colleges, universities, accredited schools of nursing with supportive services including tutoring and counseling.
(C) Providing assistance in preparing for and meeting all nursing licensure tests and requirements.
(D) Carrying out orientation and mentorship programs that assist newly graduated nurses in adjusting to working at the bedside to ensure their retention post graduation, and ongoing programs to support nurse retention.
(E) Providing stipends for release time and continued healthcare coverage to enable incumbent healthcare workers to participate in these programs.
(2) To carry out programs that assist nurses in obtaining advanced degrees and completing specialty training or certification programs and to establish incentives for nurses to assume nurse faculty positions on a part-time or full-time basis. Such programs shall include one or more of the following:
(A) Increasing the pool of nurses with advanced degrees who are interested in teaching by funding programs that enable incumbent nurses to return to school.
(B) Establishing incentives for advanced degree bedside nurses who wish to teach in nursing programs so they can obtain a leave from their bedside position to assume a full- or part-time position as adjunct or full time faculty without the loss of salary or benefits.
(C) Collaboration with accredited schools of nursing which may include community colleges and other academic institutions providing associate, bachelor’s, or advanced nursing degree programs, or specialty training or certification programs, for nurses to carry out innovative nursing programs which meet the needs of bedside nursing and healthcare providers.
(h) Preference- In awarding grants under this section the Secretary shall give preference to programs that--
(1) provide for improving nurse retention;
(2) provide for improving the diversity of the new nurse graduates to reflect changes in the demographics of the patient population;
(3) provide for improving the quality of nursing education to improve patient care and safety;
(4) have demonstrated success in upgrading incumbent healthcare workers to become nurses or which have established effective programs or pilots to increase nurse faculty; or
(5) are modeled after or affiliated with such programs described in paragraph (4).
(i) Evaluation-
(1) PROGRAM EVALUATIONS- An entity that receives a grant under this section shall annually evaluate, and submit to the Secretary a report on, the activities carried out under the grant and the outcomes of such activities. Such outcomes may include--
(A) an increased number of incumbent workers entering an accredited school of nursing and in the pipeline for nursing programs;
(B) an increasing number of graduating nurses and improved nurse graduation and licensure rates;
(C) improved nurse retention;
(D) an increase in the number of staff nurses at the healthcare facility involved;
(E) an increase in the number of nurses with advanced degrees in nursing;
(F) an increase in the number of nurse faculty;
(G) improved measures of patient quality as determined by the Secretary; and
(H) an increase in the diversity of new nurse graduates relative to the patient population.
(2) GENERAL REPORT- Not later than September 30, 2013, the Secretary of Labor shall, using data and information from the reports received under paragraph (1), submit to Congress a report concerning the overall effectiveness of the grant program carried out under this section.
(j) Authorization of Appropriations- There are authorized to be appropriated to carry out this section for fiscal years 2012, 2013, and 2014, such sums as may be necessary. Funds appropriated under this subsection shall remain available until expended without fiscal year limitation.
SEC. 4. COLLECTION OF DATA AND REPORTS TO CONGRESS ON FOREIGN-TRAINED NURSES NEWLY ADMITTED TO THE UNITED STATES EACH FISCAL YEAR.
(a) Requirement To Collect Data- With respect to each fiscal year, beginning with fiscal year 2011, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall collect the following data for each alien that acquires the status of a lawful permanent resident or a temporary alien worker (including as a temporary professional worker under the North American Free Trade Agreement) during that fiscal year for employment as a professional nurse:
(1) The country of residence and country of nationality of the alien at the time such status is acquired.
(2) The country or countries in which the alien received the professional education and training to be licensed as a nurse.
(3) The name and address of the petitioning employer.
(4) The name and and address of any recruiting agency used by the petitioning employer with respect to the recruitment, processing or preparation of the alien for the employment involved.
(5) The processing time for review and action on the petition with respect to each such aliens.
(b) Research of Data From Prior Fiscal Years-
(1) With respect to the fiscal years 2006 through 2010, the Secretary shall determine which of the data required to be collected pursuant to subsection (a) are available for retrieval in electronic databases maintained by the Secretary.
(2) In preparing the report for fiscal year 2011 mandated by this section, the Secretary shall include a summary of all such available data for fiscal years 2006 through 2010.
(c) Reports- The Secretary shall submit annual reports aggregating the data collected under subsection (a), and, with respect to the report for fiscal year 2011, such additional data identified pursuant to subsection (b), along with such related information as the Secretary determines to be appropriate, to the Committees on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and the Senate not later than 90 days after the end of each fiscal year. Such reports shall include--
(1) the aggregate number of aliens who acquired a status described in subsection (a) during such fiscal year and subtotals of the status categories acquired;
(2) subtotals within each status category for the data element collected pursuant to subsection (a); and
(3) the average processing times for each different type of petition or application involved in the acquisition of status.
(d) Publication in the Federal Register- The Secretary shall cause to have published in the Federal Register notice of the submittal to the Committees on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and the Senate of each report required under subsection (c) and of the availability to the public of each such report.
(A) Preparing incumbent workers to return to the classroom through English as a second language education, GED education, precollege counseling, college preparation classes, and support with entry level college classes that are a prerequisite to nursing.
(B) Providing tuition assistance with preference for dedicated cohort classes in community colleges, universities, accredited schools of nursing with supportive services including tutoring and counseling.
(C) Providing assistance in preparing for and meeting all nursing licensure tests and requirements.
(D) Carrying out orientation and mentorship programs that assist newly graduated nurses in adjusting to working at the bedside to ensure their retention post graduation, and ongoing programs to support nurse retention.
(E) Providing stipends for release time and continued healthcare coverage to enable incumbent healthcare workers to participate in these programs.
(2) To carry out programs that assist nurses in obtaining advanced degrees and completing specialty training or certification programs and to establish incentives for nurses to assume nurse faculty positions on a part-time or full-time basis. Such programs shall include one or more of the following:
(A) Increasing the pool of nurses with advanced degrees who are interested in teaching by funding programs that enable incumbent nurses to return to school.
(B) Establishing incentives for advanced degree bedside nurses who wish to teach in nursing programs so they can obtain a leave from their bedside position to assume a full- or part-time position as adjunct or full time faculty without the loss of salary or benefits.
(C) Collaboration with accredited schools of nursing which may include community colleges and other academic institutions providing associate, bachelor’s, or advanced nursing degree programs, or specialty training or certification programs, for nurses to carry out innovative nursing programs which meet the needs of bedside nursing and healthcare providers.
(h) Preference- In awarding grants under this section the Secretary shall give preference to programs that--
(1) provide for improving nurse retention;
(2) provide for improving the diversity of the new nurse graduates to reflect changes in the demographics of the patient population;
(3) provide for improving the quality of nursing education to improve patient care and safety;
(4) have demonstrated success in upgrading incumbent healthcare workers to become nurses or which have established effective programs or pilots to increase nurse faculty; or
(5) are modeled after or affiliated with such programs described in paragraph (4).
(i) Evaluation-
(1) PROGRAM EVALUATIONS- An entity that receives a grant under this section shall annually evaluate, and submit to the Secretary a report on, the activities carried out under the grant and the outcomes of such activities. Such outcomes may include--
(A) an increased number of incumbent workers entering an accredited school of nursing and in the pipeline for nursing programs;
(B) an increasing number of graduating nurses and improved nurse graduation and licensure rates;
(C) improved nurse retention;
(D) an increase in the number of staff nurses at the healthcare facility involved;
(E) an increase in the number of nurses with advanced degrees in nursing;
(F) an increase in the number of nurse faculty;
(G) improved measures of patient quality as determined by the Secretary; and
(H) an increase in the diversity of new nurse graduates relative to the patient population.
(2) GENERAL REPORT- Not later than September 30, 2013, the Secretary of Labor shall, using data and information from the reports received under paragraph (1), submit to Congress a report concerning the overall effectiveness of the grant program carried out under this section.
(j) Authorization of Appropriations- There are authorized to be appropriated to carry out this section for fiscal years 2012, 2013, and 2014, such sums as may be necessary. Funds appropriated under this subsection shall remain available until expended without fiscal year limitation.
SEC. 4. COLLECTION OF DATA AND REPORTS TO CONGRESS ON FOREIGN-TRAINED NURSES NEWLY ADMITTED TO THE UNITED STATES EACH FISCAL YEAR.
(a) Requirement To Collect Data- With respect to each fiscal year, beginning with fiscal year 2011, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall collect the following data for each alien that acquires the status of a lawful permanent resident or a temporary alien worker (including as a temporary professional worker under the North American Free Trade Agreement) during that fiscal year for employment as a professional nurse:
(1) The country of residence and country of nationality of the alien at the time such status is acquired.
(2) The country or countries in which the alien received the professional education and training to be licensed as a nurse.
(3) The name and address of the petitioning employer.
(4) The name and and address of any recruiting agency used by the petitioning employer with respect to the recruitment, processing or preparation of the alien for the employment involved.
(5) The processing time for review and action on the petition with respect to each such aliens.
(b) Research of Data From Prior Fiscal Years-
(1) With respect to the fiscal years 2006 through 2010, the Secretary shall determine which of the data required to be collected pursuant to subsection (a) are available for retrieval in electronic databases maintained by the Secretary.
(2) In preparing the report for fiscal year 2011 mandated by this section, the Secretary shall include a summary of all such available data for fiscal years 2006 through 2010.
(c) Reports- The Secretary shall submit annual reports aggregating the data collected under subsection (a), and, with respect to the report for fiscal year 2011, such additional data identified pursuant to subsection (b), along with such related information as the Secretary determines to be appropriate, to the Committees on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and the Senate not later than 90 days after the end of each fiscal year. Such reports shall include--
(1) the aggregate number of aliens who acquired a status described in subsection (a) during such fiscal year and subtotals of the status categories acquired;
(2) subtotals within each status category for the data element collected pursuant to subsection (a); and
(3) the average processing times for each different type of petition or application involved in the acquisition of status.
(d) Publication in the Federal Register- The Secretary shall cause to have published in the Federal Register notice of the submittal to the Committees on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and the Senate of each report required under subsection (c) and of the availability to the public of each such report.
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dreamworld
11-03 12:39 PM
It's simple.. Find some one in your friend circle who wants to send money to india and tell him that you will transfer rupees to his bank account in india and ask him to transfer dollars to ur account here.
Simple.. that's how i did last time..
good luck to get our of debt..
btw...If it is larger amount then its illegal to do this way. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala
I know this is not releated with Immigration. If you dont want to answer, that is fine. Just ignore this.
I have money crunch in US. I have accumulated huge debt in my CC. In past I have sent some money to India, but now when I ask my parents to send it here, they tell it is not possible without losing 30%. This is what they heard from my bank. Any Idea on how to get money from India from my own account to which I have sent from here.
Call and check with ICICI or any international bank located in india.
Simple.. that's how i did last time..
good luck to get our of debt..
btw...If it is larger amount then its illegal to do this way. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala
I know this is not releated with Immigration. If you dont want to answer, that is fine. Just ignore this.
I have money crunch in US. I have accumulated huge debt in my CC. In past I have sent some money to India, but now when I ask my parents to send it here, they tell it is not possible without losing 30%. This is what they heard from my bank. Any Idea on how to get money from India from my own account to which I have sent from here.
Call and check with ICICI or any international bank located in india.
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EkAurAaya
10-10 03:06 PM
My folks are here visiting... so it will be difficult for me to attend... but i will try
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nlssubbu
10-12 12:05 PM
This question has been bugging the HECK out of me as well. I mean the only way this makes sense is if 245(i) + EB3 for India >> 245(i) for Mexico. Now from all that i have read/heard/seen, it seems like 245(i) is the major hurdle. Then how is it that EB3 India is stuck and everyone else is moving? The above equation must mean that there is a SIGNIFICANT number of 245(i) cases from India as well. Any thoughts anyone? :confused:
There is a general assumption that there not many 245(i) cases from Indian nationals. In reality, there are many people from India working in Grocery stores to Gas pumps applied for 245(i) during that period.
As USCIS started looking in to the continuation of services, couple of my friends who did not worked more than 180 days land into trouble during their I-485 denied. Their attorney suggested them to take the same 245(i) route and many such tech workers are also might have fall into this category.
I believe there may be several such 245(i) cases from India and we will be able to know the exact number of cases one and only if DOL / USCIS publish the number of cases at their end. Till then we have to live with our own prediction similar to that of visa bulletin.
This also gives a good idea for someone to start a predication thread for 'Number of 245(i) cases for India' :)
Thanks
There is a general assumption that there not many 245(i) cases from Indian nationals. In reality, there are many people from India working in Grocery stores to Gas pumps applied for 245(i) during that period.
As USCIS started looking in to the continuation of services, couple of my friends who did not worked more than 180 days land into trouble during their I-485 denied. Their attorney suggested them to take the same 245(i) route and many such tech workers are also might have fall into this category.
I believe there may be several such 245(i) cases from India and we will be able to know the exact number of cases one and only if DOL / USCIS publish the number of cases at their end. Till then we have to live with our own prediction similar to that of visa bulletin.
This also gives a good idea for someone to start a predication thread for 'Number of 245(i) cases for India' :)
Thanks
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factoryman
06-18 05:24 PM
and will revalidate your H1B, assuming the job, company everything is same. That is my best educated guess.
What heppens if i have AP and go for H1 revalidation...the h1b gets rejected/delayed..can i come back in AP?
What heppens if i have AP and go for H1 revalidation...the h1b gets rejected/delayed..can i come back in AP?
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akgind
11-01 08:22 PM
You should fill out a form with the Ombudsman. Just google for it. They should help you with your case.
Is your NC cleared? Have you taken an infopass to confirm your biometrics and NC is all clear? There have been cases where fingerprinting was done but it wasn't reflected in the case status.
I was very disappointed at infopass five months ago for 140. The person did not even know the difference between EB2 and EB3. So, I am reluctant to waste any further time. My job keeps me traveling out of town 3 days a week.
Fingerprinting for my EAD was in June08, spouse and daughter in Sep07. Is there a separate Biometrics required for 485? How do I find out about NC clearance? Thanks for your help.
Is your NC cleared? Have you taken an infopass to confirm your biometrics and NC is all clear? There have been cases where fingerprinting was done but it wasn't reflected in the case status.
I was very disappointed at infopass five months ago for 140. The person did not even know the difference between EB2 and EB3. So, I am reluctant to waste any further time. My job keeps me traveling out of town 3 days a week.
Fingerprinting for my EAD was in June08, spouse and daughter in Sep07. Is there a separate Biometrics required for 485? How do I find out about NC clearance? Thanks for your help.
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hiralal
08-11 05:51 AM
I know EB / India would be disappointed but somehow it seems that this is a genuine bulletin - the reason is that family category dates have moved. I wish USCIS would have a exact date when they would release their bulletin
alien2006
08-22 12:28 PM
Guys if the employer's lawyer is not giving you information regarding the I140 and you are going behind their back for this information is it really going to help you with portability? It looks like they are just trying to make life miserable for you and what guarantee is there that they will not revoke your I140? I140 portability does not work if they revoke your I 140.
virginian99
04-16 08:38 AM
I think this has been discussed on some other thread.. would it be a good idea to make the contributions public.. may be, this encourages others to contribute, when they realize how much more is needed to reach the monetary goal.
I attended recent meeting arranged by IV in Virginia and they discussed about all this info you are asking. I don't think core team can publicly disclose all this info. They even showed us the recent bill they got to pay the lobbying firm. So next time there is IV meeting please attend it and your questions will be answered in private but not in a public forum.
I attended recent meeting arranged by IV in Virginia and they discussed about all this info you are asking. I don't think core team can publicly disclose all this info. They even showed us the recent bill they got to pay the lobbying firm. So next time there is IV meeting please attend it and your questions will be answered in private but not in a public forum.